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… But Then Again

Chris Pope & The Chords UK

Cast your mind back to the late ’80s and it was a strange period.  Rock was rubbing shoulders with indie, new country, dance, hip hop and a major back catalogue scene based around old records being reissued on CD. At the time I was editing a magazine and would receive all manner of advance cassettes, one being Kick, the forthcoming album by the then little-known INXS. In Australia they had toured with Duran Duran whose John Taylor tipped me off about them, but they were not yet famous in the UK.

I interviewed soon-to-be-legendary singer Mike Hutchence and this is part of what he had to say: “I suppose we were a bit art rock once but lately we’ve been more hard-line.  Heavier music is picking up all over the world now, be it Bon Jovi or thrash metal, because there’s so much in the middle.”

A week or two later I bumped into old mucker Chris Pope whose band, The Chords, had split up some years earlier. He was now with a group called Gatecrash Heaven and pledged me a three-track demo. I actually preferred their songs to the INXS stuff, probably because like The Pretenders and other acts of the time they were “in the middle” – catchy pop rock with a bit of an edge courtesy of Chris’s hard-rocking Gibson Les Paul guitar playing.

I went to see them a few times at London venues like The Marquee and Mean Fiddler and vaguely found myself managing the trio which included a singer/bassist and a keyboard player. My job was to use my contacts to get them signed to a major label and copious amounts of publicity. The deal also entailed handing over my spare room to Chris who lived nearby but was in the process of splitting up with his girlfriend.

Though a loyal Sarf Londoner he claimed to “like the vibe of your gaff” on the other side of the river. “The Kinks were brought up round the corner, weren’t they?” So, Summerlee Gardens, N2, it was, the end-of-terrace house meaning noise could be made when accessing my growing record collection. When not writing songs Chris turned his hand to journalism, contributing to the magazine I was editing, For the Record.  His highlights were interviewing alt. country star Steve Earle, San Franciscan producer Rick Nowels (Belinda Carlisle’s timeless ‘Heaven Is a Place on Earth’) and reviewing a Who compilation, a 32-track double CD spanning their career from debut single ‘I Can’t Explain’ to ‘Who Are You?’, the last Who song to feature the immortal drummer Keith Moon.

Here Chris was totally in his element, pointing out that this group, between the early ’60s and late ’70s, “had a ceaseless stream of perfect pop songs such as ‘I Can See for Miles’, ‘Baba O’Riley’ and ‘Won’t Get Fooled Again’ which were incisive and irresistible. Pete Townshend (singer-songwriter/guitarist) possessed talent that he channelled into his compassionate lyrics which absorbed his generation and consolidated The Who into one of the greatest rock ‘n’ roll bands of all time.”

Opinions of this kind fed into many a conversation while Chris was around, especially during the evenings which inevitably passed boozily at free gigs, parties and aftershows. “Freemans?” he would enquire, his code for guest list or name on the door. One DJ referred to him as Mr Alternative and indeed many things about him answered to that adjective. At a time when most of our pals sported denim or leather, the Pope opted for a battered baseball jacket acquired second-hand.

As a lyricist himself Chris was more than keen about what his fellow wordsmiths had to say. Like most of our crew he was nuts about The Clash, especially the way their songwriting progressed towards the classic ‘White Man in Hammersmith Palais’. He was also impressed with the ideas of Mick Jones who had left the band a few years earlier. When Mick released a song called ‘Get Out of London’ Chris seemed to take it as a telepathic connection and started to think about moving himself, New York being the preferred destination. This despite the fact he had just written a song called ‘Down and Out In New York City‘.

Anyway, off he and Kevin, the Gatecrash Heaven singer, went although we always kept in touch – and not without good reason. Some of his news was almost uncanny, or surreal as today’s generation tend to say.  A former manager of Diana Ross was so impressed with their demos he offered financial backing and some kind of roof over their heads.  Further momentum led to an LA showcase only for Kevin to flee the stage in what may charitably be called a panic attack.

Another musician friend explained to me that you can chase success for so long that when it comes the result can be frightening. Talk about being careful what you wish for, to quote one of Chris’s later songs. 

These songs opened the next chapter of Chris’s career. He had started writing some of them as early as 1978 when he was still in his teens and joined The Chords. By this time punk had partly morphed into mod because of the revival of that sound by bands like The Jam. “Mod seemed to be the last youth movement which promised fun” the band’s singer-songwriter Paul Weller told me in an interview for Record Mirror. “When I first heard ‘My Generation’ by The Who I thought ‘what’s all this about?’ It may be nostalgia for some but for me it was a total innovation, guitars slashing through the mix and that whole wild production. It reeked of youth.”

Obviously, Chris, now 65, like Paul who is a few years older, was too young to remember the original mod scene but ended up releasing their records on the same label, Polydor. The Chords’ first single, ‘Now It’s Gone‘, came out in ’79 while the following year they made the Top 40 with ‘Maybe Tomorrow‘ shortly before their debut LP So Far Away followed suit. Then their luck ran out. Not only did they part company with singer Billy Hassett, but the next few singles failed to chart. Consequently, a second album never came out although some of its intended tracks appeared on … But Then Again which came out on CD and vinyl earlier this year.

…But Then Again is a 44-track behemoth on Chris’s own E-Pop (Pope backwards) label. It has been around for most of this century knocking out singles and albums of his own songs under the brands Pope, Chris Pope, and Chris Pope & The Chords UK. These, dating back to the lost second Chords album, include such crowd-pleasers as ‘The British Way of Life‘.

Like many of the songs it tends to fall into one of two categories: what’s been experienced and that which has been observed. ‘Man on the Northern Line’ covers both, referencing his daily commute as an employee of the Red Cross, as well as to rehearsals and other engagements involving group responsibilities. ‘Gentrified The Elephant’ (as in Elephant & Castle) and ‘Hipsters of London’ are two other jaw-droppers indicating how the new tribes think they are taking over, just as the New Romantic, rockabilly and ska brigade allegedly put paid to the original Chords career.

But the work-a-day week (Eat Sleep Work Repeat) also has its upside: the breathless anticipation of ‘Get Me To Saturday Night’, ‘Indie Disco Friday Night’ and the “yeah rightishness” of ‘In The Land of Milk and Honey’ which almost got them a publishing deal in the Gatecrash days. Then there are the deliberately deluded cuts, ‘Mutiny on the Thames‘ and ‘Hey Kids! Come The Revolution’ offset by the more yearning, reflective ‘Somewhere Beyond the Rainbow’ and personal favourite ‘Dreams of Yesterday‘ which wouldn’t sound out of place at an Ian Hunter gig.

And there’s more, much more, with singles galore this year alone. ‘World Gone Crazy‘ came out as a single in the summer but continues to be relevant on account of ongoing political crises. The fecund E-Pop machine is in full swing and sales are buoyant too. The triple CD …But Then Again sold out its first 500 pressing in four days while a week later the double-LPs were briskly changing hands at £20 apiece. I saw this myself at London’s renowned 100 Club, where Oasis also recently played.

Mr and Mrs Pope on tour

The Chords UK, named with respect to original singer Billy Hassett keeping the Chords name even though he lives in Japan, currently comprise Sandy Michie (lead guitar), Mic Stoner (bass) and Kenny Cooper (drums) and, of course, Chris adding newer, more powerful vocals to his list of talents. They have been promoting …But Then Again which is no ordinary compilation since all the cuts have been re-recorded, or “re-imagined” as the singer puts it. Why, I wondered, when he first told me what he had in mind a couple of years ago.

“I get fed up with banging out the same old stuff,” he replied with characteristic frankness, “we still must keep pushing forward. The album is not just a milestone but a statement of intent. It’s too early for happy endings, there’s plenty still to come.”

Which means the current tour – playing a re-imagined ‘So Far Away‘ – is part of that process. Too soon for happy endings, perhaps, but there have been many happy days and nights to remember. Apart from the sold-out shows replete with original fans and their children to make sure they make it home, there was Chris’s wedding to Sandra around a decade ago. Yes, I was there, but these days I usually see the wife, to quote ‘The British Way of Life’, on some venue’s merch stand, cheerfully flogging their colourfully handsome array of Chords UK shirts and discs. That’s Sandra on the cover of …But Then Again, serving his lordship tea in their Sarf London flat.

Funny but back in the day I could have sworn it was more of a lager lounge…

Get The Chords UK triple CD …But Then Again here.

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Nothing Less Than Brilliant

Joop van Bilsen / Anefo, CC0, via Wikimedia Commons

Funny what happens when you decide to do a tidy-up. That large box I kept tripping over was supposed to be full of 90s compilations, mostly repeating each other’s tracks, a hangover from the days when record companies were making their next round of easy money with greatest hits CDs of one sort or another.  Then shone a veritable diamond in the rough, which should have been shelved alphabetically like my thousands of other CDs. But you can imagine what it’s like shifting your collection from the Northwest to the (far) East…

The gem in question is Nothing Less Than Brilliant by ”60s comeback queen Sandie Shaw. Back in the day she was famous for singing a whole range of hits including ‘(There’s) Always Something There to Remind Me’, ‘Girl Don’t Come’ – wonderfully covered by ex-New York Doll David Johansen (RIP) on his 1979 UK tour – and ‘Long Live Love’. We won’t dwell upon how she performed shoeless in stockinged feet…

But what would a Sandie record set be without The Smiths’ ‘Hand in Glove’, evoking memories of the time she was backed by those Mancunians on Top of the Pops, with shoes, but showing off a fine pair of knees below a stunning black leather dress before singing most of the song horizontal on the stage floor. Another artist younger than her that springs to mind is Lloyd Cole, Sandie covering his soulful ‘Are You Ready to Be Heartbroken?’ on this same disc.

Although only eight years younger than Sandie, she and I were pals for a while. We met at some art exhibition in Mayfair, got chatting and she asked me where I was from.  When I replied Manchester, her companion, Sandie’s daughter Gracie, uttered the words “another one” clearly referring to an auspicious associate, The Smiths’ Morrissey. I took to  Gracie right away.

As for Sandie, this being my Hello! years, we continued to meet at events all over town, including the premier of the Kevin Costner film Dances with Wolves. I was with a female friend prompting Sandie to waste no time asking, “Are you two an item?”  Then came an invitation to the launch of her autobiography, The World at My Feet, in 1991. On spotting me at the venue, upstairs at the Groucho Club, the author handed me a copy and said “you’re in this!”

The last time we spoke was on Gary Crowley’s BBC London radio show early this century. I asked after Gracie and the singer revealed her daughter was now a mother herself. Well, Sandie hardly looked like the traditional granny. Then not long ago Shaw was awarded an MBE for services to music. These would have included another track on Nothing Less Than Brilliant, the charming ‘Monsieur Dupont’, which I would like to dedicate to another Mancunian, my old friend Jennifer, one of three sisters I partied hard with throughout my teens. So hard, in fact, that during one of them I threw up on their parents’ lawn at their house near prosperous Hale Barns.

My friend Peter Saville, of Factory Records fame, was incredulous shrieking “You’re turning into a punk, the Ian Dury of Hale!”, while the girls’ father, Isador or Charlie as he preferred to be called, accepted my apologies graciously. I’d known him all my life and knew he was a very creative businessman, opening one of the first chains of ‘fun’ pubs. He lived to a grand old age and is buried in the next grave to my brother, Robert, who wasn’t so lucky, passing away at 54.

I unearthed some fine photos of him while tidying up, too.

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The Tremelo Diaries

You may remember Beatle John Lennon’s wry but seething definition of life.  That “it’s what happens to us while we are making other plans”. Well since the late ‘80s Del Amitri have become a very popular band although most music fans will mainly be familiar with hits like ‘Nothing Ever Happens’ and ‘Kiss This Thing Goodbye’ and, at a stretch, their album Waking Hours.

Nevertheless, I, for one, was surprised to discover that the Scottish combo, led by singer/songwriter Justin Currie, have sold six million albums worldwide. I guess that’s because during this period I was busy making other plans like writing for the broadsheet press and buying houses to secure the future of my children who were born around the same time as Del Amitri were taking off.

However it didn’t escape my attention that Justin had a lovely sincere-sounding voice while the band’s brand of rolling pop-rock partially disguised his formidable lyrical talent, such couplets as “When our lips were kissing / Our tongues were telling lies” appearing with fine abundance. During band breaks of touring and recording Justin also released solo albums of his own and now has an autobiography to his name.

The Tremolo Diaries might seem like a typically snappy title for a musician’s memoir (a tremolo being an effect produced by a rapid repetition of notes) but this is no ordinary jolly romp-on-the-road sort of oeuvre. Currie decided the group should go on a lengthy American tour soon after being diagnosed for Parkinson’s Disease, a long-term degenerative disorder of the nervous system affecting both motor and non-motor skills including, in Justin’s case, playing bass guitar.

Meanwhile his girlfriend – referred to throughout as My Love – suffered a very serious stroke leading to her being domiciled in a care home. The resulting guilt is monumental as Justin is more than ready to admit: “I despise myself for letting this happen to her, under my watch.” Yet “I don’t care about the guilt” he adds, towards the end of the book. “I care about the love. Love that could no longer maintain without the extraordinary support of the system and our community. Without them I’d be a twenty-four-hour carer and both of us would be destroyed.

“The hero should save the day.  But what does he have left to say when so much has been taken away? (His Love has lost the ability to speak). Except for love. The love is here to stay.”

Strong stuff but along with the empathy and compassion there are breath-taking tranches of sarcasm and bitterness. I managed to speak to Justin at his recent visit to the Walthamstow rock ‘n’ roll book club in London E17. He reckoned his memoir was not so much therapeutic as cathartic, meaning it was a vehicle for releasing powerful emotions and relieving almost indescribable tensions following the double trauma.

The book is also darkly funny, gallows humour tear gassing every diary entry. So without any further ado let us virtually gatecrash Del Amitri on tour in America with a couple of local bands and then in Europe with one of his favourite acts, Simple Minds. I should point out I read the book twice in order to alight upon and savour the parts which made me double up with laughter.

Justin Currie by Paul Hayes, CC BY-SA 3.0 via Wikimedia Commons

There’s much to do with food which, along with longish walks, obviously keeps his strength up. In Washington DC Justin chances upon a Gordon Ramsay fish ‘n’ chips outlet and a Gordon Ramsay Hell’s Kitchen restaurant. “Another narcissist charlatan who likes to smear his name on edifices.” I can see where he’s coming from. Wilmington, North Carolina, has different issues: “Two blonde beehived ladies cross the street in floral pantsuits and matching gold-rimmed sunglasses. They look like extras from a B-52s video. I imagine they imagine they are Southern belles.

“Smug white pedestrians who look like they know what they did, still-victorious ethnic cleansers. What a scourge white folk are, what a pitiless plague.  Everywhere you go – art gallery, coffee shop, tattoo parlour, truck stop, deli or shoe store – they’re selling T-shirts and baseball caps with logos.  The world is awash with these wasteful souvenirs.”

But then he is gracious enough to confess:  “We sell this sort of shit every night, clogging up the future.  The human race could say I will end up fashioning entire cities from these cotton and polyester remnants.  Shanty towns will be named after obscure lube shops, kids will cower under Del Amitri blankets on their MAGA hat mattresses.” Justin is no fan of The Donald. Jumping ahead to a gig in Dubai he describes the city as “a monument to real estate hubris. A penal colony designed by Donald Trump during a bout of food poisoning. It’s a colossal folly, a carpet of crap. It’s the future and the future is hell,” he fumes,  paraphrasing Leonard Cohen.

But the money is still good: “I could say I was railroaded into doing this show, but I’m here and guilty of all charges, hypocrisy, greed and moral turpitude. There’s a prayer room next to the immaculately tiled toilets (with showers).  Perhaps I should ask for forgiveness.”  That was Day 91 of the tour.  A few weeks earlier Manchester, UK, came in for an architectural review, more detailed and devastatingly accurate:

“At every turn you meet mad collisions of the industrial past and the near-present.  Glass boxes grow out of old sandstone ramparts, nineteenth-century red-brick facades cage twenty-first-century offices.  Concrete car parks jam up against Victorian terraces, old warehouses and sunken canals. Not all of it works but the music I grew up with has much to do with this renaissance.  From Buzzcocks through Joy Division and Factory Records to the Smiths and towering outsiders The Fall, bands made the new Manchester, sucking in designers, artists and writers.”

I would like to think I am one of the latter, the Northern Correspondent for Record Mirror in the wake of punk, before accepting the call to come down to London after writing about all the above in late 1978. At the book club event we chatted about this and how as a proud Glaswegian he felt honoured to be part of a tradition which produced Josef K, Orange Juice and Simple Minds.

“In the ’60s and ’70s Glasgow had never been cool but Edwyn Collins (Orange Juice) was important from the point of view that if they and their indie label Postcard could make it, we could, too.  Orange Juice wore ridiculous clothes and deliberately flaunted their amateurism which led to them encouraging others.  In fact early Del Amitri were copyists, five years younger and still at school. There were other bands playing in pubs but they were more like Quo i.e. not as interesting. At 19 I was very proud of what I was doing, no boss and the best job in the world. Del Amitri didn’t expect our fans to dance to songs they had never heard before – smiling was enough!”

The momentum of the band’s career was such that when in 2022 Justin was diagnosed with Parkinson’s he decided to keep touring and working “despite the uneasy feeling that another man was growing inside me, slowly seizing the means of control.” He gave that man the name Gavin “after a guitar tech who couldn’t do the tour”. But Justin mainly refers to the disease as “My Ghastly Affliction”.

On a happier note there are some tremendous anecdotes and one-liners. In a Belfast Museum “I meander through the usual video walls and interactive bollocks. Small-nation stuff – ‘look how successful we’ve been!’” The National WWII museum in New Orleans gets it worse. “That war was an international orgy of violence and inhumanity that happened on a colossal scale at an insane speed and intensity. This force-feeding of the lie, in both the West and former Soviet countries, that the war was about freedom reminds me of Ladybird books. Everything is company propaganda and there is no video content illustrating the role of Special Brew in the development of the Great British derelict.”

In Dijon, France, “A slightly frail man resembling a rock star gives me a knowing nod.  I think we recognise one another as gentlemen who have taken drugs.”  Off the road “We were recording ‘Can You Do Me Good’ around uber-hip Old Street circa 1999. The tech bubble was yet to burst and east London was awash with wankers of every description.  Young mums on bone-rattler bikes with baguettes sticking out of their front baskets, artistic types with no socks…”

Currying favour with Justin

Which takes us a few tube stops from the recent rock ‘n’ roll book club event. Justin tells us how in the west of Scotland it pays never to be too enthusiastic about things.  So when a friend talking  about The Tremolo Diaries said  “I couldn’t find anything wrong with that”, he took it as “the greatest compliment”. 

With a tad less modesty he reckons the timeless ‘Nothing Ever Happens’ “is as relevant now as ever. The music spoke to us emotionally if not politically. It was never our plan to change the world although in 1979 and 1980 we naively thought indie could achieve what The Beatles did. Now pop has been subsumed by the entertainment industry – even Mick and Keith, in a recent documentary, call it ‘Showbusiness’ while even Jim Kerr just talks about ‘keeping the customer satisfied’. Last year I went to see another hero, Bob Dylan, and although he was great he wasn’t going to change the world like he pretty much did in the 60s.

“The pendulum will never swing back.  No area of pop culture is as good as it was, there will just be reiterations and tweaks. My Ghastly Affliction meant that my bass playing wasn’t as good as it had been so the rest of the band had to cover for me. But we were getting away with it.”

I wondered if the Parkinson’s made it more difficult to write songs and whether there would be another Del Amitri album. To the relief of the crowded venue the answer was in the affirmative.

“The affliction makes it harder which means having to write songs in a different way,” Justin explains.  “Honing everything down with the notion that I’m not repeating myself and everything is less complicated. We’re hoping to release something next year,” he reveals with a tired smile.

To which all I can conclude after an action-packed book and a highly entertaining evening … who said nothing ever happens?

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The Birth of My Blog

Record Mirror Editorial Meeting with Stewart Copeland, 1980

So here we are, a quarter of the way through the current century and even though music and the way it’s delivered has changed and keeps changing, one thing remains the same: a charismatic front man or woman at the centre of the machine.

In my last book, My Life with Rock N’ Roll People, published by Ghostwriter Books, I wrote about the 100 shiniest stars I had interviewed during my career as a rock journalist writing for Record Mirror, the tabloids, Hello!, The Times, Evening Standard, Penthouse and The Sunday Times. It included everyone from Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney and Neil Young to Joe Strummer, John Lyndon and Kate Bush.

Photo by Justin Thomas

By the time it was published, some of them had written their own personal memoirs so, apart from hosting events of my own, entertaining audiences with anecdotes about my life with rock n’ roll people such as these, I went to their events too and asked some questions which I hadn’t been able to before. The results appeared on my Facebook pages and included those heroes of the glam and punk era who never stopped making music: Richard Jobson (The Skids), Chris Pope (The Chords UK), Phil Manzanera (Roxy Music), Martyn Ware (Human League, Heaven 17) and John Cooper Clarke, the esteemed bard of Salford, where I grew up, and more poet than musician.

As I pointed out in the introduction to My Life with Rock N’ Roll People, these characters must be poets, philosophers and business people as well as musicians if they are to survive the parasites of the industry, including over-zealous fans inevitably drawn towards them.

Since then, everyone wants to be a philosopher and even our god and god of our fathers, Bob Dylan, alongside his often brilliant paintings, published a book called The Philosophy of Modern Song. In it, he suggests music transcends time by living within it. Couldn’t have put it better myself!

This blog will be a continuation of my life with rock n’ roll people in the days and months to come and a celebration of the importance of music in my life. I hope you’ll join me on Monday morning for my weekly post which will cover everything from gigs, reviews, interviews, opinions and whatever philosophical thoughts spring to mind.

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Rock N’ Roll People News

The launch party for My Life With Rock N’ Roll People by Mike Nicholls took place at The Sun & Thirteen Cantons in Soho, London to a full house and a lively convivial atmosphere. Guests included Alf Martin, former editor of Record Mirror; Allan Jones, former editor of Melody Maker and Uncut; Chris Welch, journalist and ace drummer; Maggi Ronson, opera singer and sister of the late Mick Ronson; Dave Sinclair, band leader and journalist, David Stark, publisher of Song Link magazine; Rusty Egan of New Romantic fame, and many more.  Singer-songwriter Ben Smith provided the live entertainment and Mike Nicholls gave a reading from My Life With Rock N’ Roll People.